that he would go along with it which includes turning medicare into a voucher program, cuts in education, cuts across the board. if ryan is going to run away from that, i think he's going to have a hard time. joe biden understands these policies. i think he's going to confront ryan with the truth of his policies, with the truth of romney record. that's what not just the democratic party is looking for but the nation is looking for. >> thank you both for your time this evening. >> thank you. >>> coming up, about that debate, president obama says he just had a bad night. more on what the president is saying and what he's planning for round two. don't miss it. >>> and affirmative action heads to the supreme court. and i was inside as the drama played out. stay with us. you know, i was once used for small jobs. yeah, and i took on all the bigger, tougher ones. but now that mr. clean's got this new select-a-size magic eraser, i mean, he can take on any size job. look how easily he gets things cleaned. it's enough to make you cry. you, specifically. not me. i'm just happy we don't go near rex'